Godless In MK
Friday 6 December 2013
Thursday 5 December 2013
Ghost hunting
Mention the TV programme "Most Haunted" to most people and if they've heard of it they'll probably remember two of the cast in particular - Derek Acorah and Yvette Fielding.
Following these broadcasts many ghost-hunting groups were set up including one in Milton Keynes where I live. Now the thing about England, especially this neck of the woods, is that it's sometimes difficult to heave a brick without hitting something historic. This article is about an investigation at the Swan Inn at Great Horwood. The A421 route is Roman and just outside Buckingham itself at Thornborough there are two Roman burial mounds - so people have been living and dying in this area, and leaving traces behind, for nearly two thousand years.
Have a read through the report of the investigation. Ok, it's a local newspaper story but the standard of the work carried out is pretty common. One critic of these standards is Hayley Stevens, a paranormal researcher. Hayley appeared on the Fundamentally Flawed vodcast and while I respect her professional work I do have issues with how she interacts with people.
The thing is that Hayley, and many others, have been critiquing the low quality of the research being undertaken for years and people are still asking these groups to turn up and investigate ghostly sightings.
It's as though they won't be told.
Equally, and as I mentioned on FF#77 post show hangout, there are no barriers to setting up a group, there are no qualifications to pass and no statutory public liability cover required.
Furthermore, as I said in The Place, it seems to be a part of the human condition to want there to be "something" rather than it's people being uneducated or stupid.
Therefore, we're left in a state where there are people who believe in ghosts, other people who think ghost hunting or investigating ghost sightings is fairly straightforward (but whose investigations are actually very amateurish), and there are no restrictions to anyone calling them a ghost hunter or practising as such.
The cynic in me sometimes considers the prospect of setting up as a psychic, a medium, a healer or as a ghost hunter because it all looks like taking candy from a baby and people simply won't be told, and if anyone is going to take the candy then why shouldn't be me ?
Then that old nagging sensation called personal integrity comes a-knocking and I stop thinking about it.
It's really annoying sometimes.
Following these broadcasts many ghost-hunting groups were set up including one in Milton Keynes where I live. Now the thing about England, especially this neck of the woods, is that it's sometimes difficult to heave a brick without hitting something historic. This article is about an investigation at the Swan Inn at Great Horwood. The A421 route is Roman and just outside Buckingham itself at Thornborough there are two Roman burial mounds - so people have been living and dying in this area, and leaving traces behind, for nearly two thousand years.
Have a read through the report of the investigation. Ok, it's a local newspaper story but the standard of the work carried out is pretty common. One critic of these standards is Hayley Stevens, a paranormal researcher. Hayley appeared on the Fundamentally Flawed vodcast and while I respect her professional work I do have issues with how she interacts with people.
The thing is that Hayley, and many others, have been critiquing the low quality of the research being undertaken for years and people are still asking these groups to turn up and investigate ghostly sightings.
It's as though they won't be told.
Equally, and as I mentioned on FF#77 post show hangout, there are no barriers to setting up a group, there are no qualifications to pass and no statutory public liability cover required.
Furthermore, as I said in The Place, it seems to be a part of the human condition to want there to be "something" rather than it's people being uneducated or stupid.
Therefore, we're left in a state where there are people who believe in ghosts, other people who think ghost hunting or investigating ghost sightings is fairly straightforward (but whose investigations are actually very amateurish), and there are no restrictions to anyone calling them a ghost hunter or practising as such.
The cynic in me sometimes considers the prospect of setting up as a psychic, a medium, a healer or as a ghost hunter because it all looks like taking candy from a baby and people simply won't be told, and if anyone is going to take the candy then why shouldn't be me ?
Then that old nagging sensation called personal integrity comes a-knocking and I stop thinking about it.
It's really annoying sometimes.
Monday 2 December 2013
Christmas (part 3) - Christmas in the UK
I was lucky enough to be asked on as a
guest to “The Place” podcast by the New Covenant Group – you
can watch it here.
It's two hours long but worth a watch.
I did try to explain some of the
differences between the UK and USA expectations and experiences of
the season, particularly Christmas Day but it was 2.30am and I'd like
to clarify some of the points that I made.
Firstly – music. We do have a
tradition of playing festive music in shops in December (and even
late November), but eventhough there are pop songs that include
religious themes they are not played very often.
The sort of songs that you might hear
are
1. All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey
2. Last Christmas - Wham!
3. Fairytale Of New York - The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl
4. Merry Xmas Everybody - Slade
5. I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday - Wizzard
6. Do They Know It's Christmas? - Band Aid
7. Driving Home For Christmas - Chris Rea
8. Stop The Cavalry - Jona Lewie
9. White Christmas - Bing Crosby
10. Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! - Dean Martin
11. I Believe In Father Christmas - Greg Lake
12. Wonderful Christmas Time - Paul McCartney
13. Merry Christmas Everyone - Shakin' Stevens
14. Step Into Christmas - Elton John
15. The Power Of Love - Frankie Goes To Hollywood
16. Happy Xmas (War Is Over) - John And Yoko
17. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee
18. Winter Wonderland - Darlene Love
19. Stay Another Day - East 17
20. 2000 Miles - The Pretenders
and the two songs that I mentioned by
Cliff Richard
“Mistletoe and Wine" by Cliff Richard
“Saviours Day” ditto
The most common time for an argument on
Christmas Day is actually 10.13am - source. Indeed Christmas Day for alot of people is a very sad time and many do get depressed - source.
I would argue that "Mistletoe and Wine" is not very popular because it tells people how their Christmas should be and loads the event with a great deal of expectation that ends up unfulfilled and the Fairytale of New York is popular because it does the opposite and admits that the event often begins with a mix of hope and regret, and will include a raging row.
Next, I ought to explains Nativity Plays - and the way that although they appear to be explicitly religious they are actually far less so and instead, because of the need to be as inclusive as possible, the cast will include characters that are simply not mentioned in the Bible, often to the wry amusement of parents in the audience. Nonetheless, it is a popular event and a rite of passage for Primary School children.
Finally, the Pantomime is another Christmas tradition and is a musical comedy play based on children's stories such as Babes in the Wood, Cinderella, Snow White and Dick Whittington. The key features are audience participation ("He's behind you !", "Oh no he isn't", celebrities, awful jokes and garish costumes.
In summary, the UK Christmas experience is different to the USA and is not as overtly religious.
We are indeed two nations separated by a common festival.
We are indeed two nations separated by a common festival.
Sunday 1 December 2013
Christmas (Part 2) – Co-opting the symbols
As the seasons turn the flora change.
Every Autumn the deciduous trees shed their leaves and the ground is
covered with browns and golds as nature appears to go into shutdown.
Nights become longer, days shorter, colder and wetter. In the midsts
of these changes some flora do not change – ivy, holly, mistletoe
continue to grow, the latter even on a tree that otherwise appears to
be devoid of life. Whereas most plants fruit from Spring onwards the
holly tree bears fruit in Winter, and eating very, very small amounts
of those berries can induce hallucinations and heighten awareness (I
bet you lot didn't know that), although taken too excess will result
in poisoning and maybe death. Mistletoe is often thought of in
conjunction with holly, and is asserted to be an antidote to
poisoning as well as a cure for barreness in animals (which obviously
explains the whole kissing thing excuse).
Tree worship more generally has a long
history, again dating back to pre-Christian times in many countries
and there are tales of Christian missionaries taking steps to
eradicate it using force (or just an axe). During the leafing months
the strongest and oldest tree is the Oak, but during Winter that
mantle passes to the Pine or Fir tree as the tallest evergreen. In
most cases the tree is not on it's own on a windy hill but in a
sacred grove (if one did not naturally exist then there was nothing
wrong with some judicious woodsmanship to create one).
The point that I'm trying to get to is
what is the history of the symbols that we associate with the season
?
I think that a case can be made that
people used whatever was around them and picked on whatever was odd
amongst the noise of the mundane. People in England, generally
speaking, do not worship grass, or brambles, or nettles, or
dandelions, or privet for that matter (Monty Python and the Knights
who say “Ni !” notwithstanding).
Christians, in seeking to obliterate
any existing faith path were not above using force, or appropriating
festivals, symbols and stories and overlaying them, sometimes with
the most amazing use of spin, to turn those things into
reinforcements of the Christian worldview.
If an oak was sacred to Thor then chop
the thing down (thanks St Boniface). Otherwise co-opt whatever it was
and invent an appropriate back story. As an aside I was in Paris in
June and climbed the Eiffel Tower (well it was rude not to) and on
the way down from the Second Level to the First I passed a family
from the USA where the mother or auntie was speaking to a younger
girl, about 14, who was clearly impressed by the structure and was
being instructed
“This should remind you of your
baptism ceremony, that was awesome too.”
I thought “It's a fucking marvel of
human engineering not an excuse for brain-washing.”
Nonetheless it was being co-opted to
reinforce the faith.
Anyway, my point is that many of the
things that we associate with Christmas have actually got nothing to
do with Christianity, they are the renamed refugees from earlier
beliefs.
Saturday 30 November 2013
Christmas (Part 1) - The reason for the Season
I'm not a Christian but I will be
celebrating a festival called “Christmas” on the 25th
December, so doesn't that make me a hypocrite ?
It's part of the regular dialogue
between Christians and non-Christians in early December every year
with Christians proclaiming that Jesus is the “Reason for the
Season” and non-Christians countering with examples of
pre-Christian winter festivals such as Saturnalia or Sol Invictus.
Again, drawing on my previous
experiences of a non-Christian faith path but also as a Skeptic, I
take a slightly different view. I do not cite Saturnalia or Sol
Invictus but instead look to the sacred landscape. The evidence at
sites like Stonehenge and Newgrange demonstrates a clear ability to
note a significant date in architecture that predates the arrival of
the Romans in Britain by more than a thousand years.
At Stonehenge it is possible to use the
site to note both the Summer (at sunrise) and Winter (at
sunset) solstices. At Newgrange it is also possible to use the site to
note the Winter (at sunrise) solstice.
Both Stonehenge and Newgrange are major
works of human endeavour in their creation, development and
maintenance over many centuries.
From those two examples, one in Wiltshire, England and the other in County Meath, Ireland it is clear
that dismissing pre-Christian festivals noting a recurring annual
event close to the 25th December by focusing on the Roman
festivals of Saturnalia or Sol Invictus is mistaken.
In other words the reason for the
season is not Jesus but the Winter solstice which is a naturalistic
event and the evidence is in the landscape, and still there for us to
see.
Friday 29 November 2013
The Argument from Miracles
Nonetheless...
This is one of the major lines of
argument put forward as evidencing the existence of the Christian god
and it's something that interests me from the perspective of a
non-Christian faith path.
There are a lot of problems with the
argument as far as I can ascertain and I'm going to focus on these
four, if you know anymore then let me know.
- the problem of observation
- the problem of cause
- the problem of intent
- the problem of need
Skeptics focus on the problem of
observation – how do we know that a miracle has taken place, and
indeed what is a miracle ? So let me put forward some of my own
definitions.
What is a Miracle ? The problem of
observation
A miracle is an event that enables the
the passage from one state of affairs of an object to another state
of affairs where the cause of that event cannot have a naturalistic
explanation. The first state of affairs and the second state of
affairs can be observed and investigated using a naturalistic
methodology.
There are a number of differences
between a naturalistic and non-naturalistic cause
- a naturalistic cause can be reproduced on demand, it is predictable, and it is falsifiable
- a non-naturalistic cause cannot be reproduced on demand, it is not predictable and it is not falsifiable.
This is leaving aside the most common
complaints that the observations of the first and second state of
affairs is usually anecdotal and some time after the fact with no
certainty that the object in the first and second state of affairs
are the same object or that the event is a single non-naturalistic
instance as opposed to a series of naturalistic events that had been
edited to produce a gap.
Thus the most common challenge thrown
down to Christians - “Why doesn't god heal amputees ?” would only
be counted as a miracle if the person with a missing limb has their
identity verified, then verified again after the limb has reappeared
and no significant time has passed that might be accounted for by
extensive reconstructive surgery and recuperation.
However, no such challenge has been met
by Christians. Instead we are presented with an anecdote of a person
who may have lost a limb and then some time later has had that limb
restored. We are unable to verify that the person before and after
is the same and even if they are the same we then need to be assured
that they haven't been through a naturalistic surgical procedure to
reattach the limb.
Christians offering these examples seem
to resent being asked for verification and examination in order to
check that a miracle has been observed. Yet the requests seem no more
than would be required to validate an insurance claim for property
damage to your house. Is this your house, was it in a good state of
repair, when did the damage occur, what was the cause of the damage, please provide three written estimates,
here's your cheque less the excess.
In order to move on let's lower the
evidential hurdle. We'll accept a standard that the Christians will
put forward.
There was an object, it was in one
state of affairs and then it was in another state of affairs and the
cause appears to be non-naturalistic.
If any Christians would like to tweak that definition then let me know.
If any Christians would like to tweak that definition then let me know.
The problem of cause
Moving on to the next problem – which
cause or which god or which supernatural entity is responsible for
the event.
If we define what a miracle is by how
it appears to be then Christians must examine all such claims of a
miraculous event without specifying the cause. It should be possible
to collect together a sizable number of anecdotes about those events
and strip out the features that identify the suggested cause and to
“blind test” those descriptions. Perhaps this has already been
done.
The results of what a Christian thinks
is a miracle from a list of Christian and non-Christian caused
miracles where there are no identifying features would be
enlightening.
My own history comes into play too –
I followed a different faith path before I became Skeptic and I was
aware of claims of miraculous events from people who followed that
faith path. I was also aware of claims from Islam and Judaism,
Hinduism and Sikhism too. The anecdotes looked very similar.
In which case, if we accept that
miracle is a miracle because it looks like a miracle rather than it
can be verified to the degree that I've proposed then it follows that
in a blind test it may not be possible for the follower of any
particular faith path to identify miracles that can be assigned to one specific supernatural entity as opposed to another. That's leaving aside if
we can verify that miracle – and do so for miracles from more than
one faith path.
The problem of intent
Christians can, of course, rebut that
by saying that the Christian god either only provides miracles for
Christians and that the cause of the non-Christian miracles is the
devil engaging in a deception or that the Christian god does provides
miracles for non-Christians in order to fulfill some purpose.
Let's think about that – the devil
provides miracles for non-Christians in order to deceive them. Of
course this just raises more questions
- how does the Christian know that they are not being deceived by the negative spirit of a non-Christian faith path ?
- If the devil is providing miracles for non-Christians and god is providing miracles for Christians then how can they be differentiated ?
- As a side note if the devil is providing miracles then does it matter – is the miracle not the important thing ? Remember the oft quoted phrase about being prepared to make a deal with the devil for a positive outcome for someone that you have a deep emotional connection to.
Next, if the Christian god is providing
miracles for non-Christians for some unknown purpose then how does
the Christian explain that the major effect is to reinforce the
non-Christian beliefs of those benefiting from and witnessing the
miracle ?
The problem of need
This is not an obvious counter to the
argument from miracles but I think it is actually very powerful.
When and why do you need a miracle ?
In the past people would have been
praying and invoking their gods and goddesses far more regularly than
they do now. Naked assertion perhaps, but think about it
- if you're ill do you go to your GP or
the church to pray
- if you're poor do you go to a loan
company or to the church to pray
- if you're under attack do you call
the police or do you go to the church to pray
We have progressed a great deal over
the centuries due to the developments in medicine such that if you
are ill you are far less likely to pray because you will have a
degree of confidence in the medical services being provided. Praying
for a miracle, if it happens at all, occurs when that degree of
confidence falls below a certain threshold. The difficulty for
Christians is that for a great many treatments that fall in
confidence does not occur today whereas it might have occurred many
decades ago.
The need for a miracle has decreased.
Without that need the justification for the existence of a
supernatural entity has equally decreased. We simply don't need god
as much as we used to. What we do need is a good medical service,
decent housing, affordable credit, and jobs with a living wage. This
is all stuff that we can influence ourselves. A god is not the
necessity that it once was.
So, in summary -
- we cannot be sure, based on the quality of evidence provided that a miracle has been observed
- we cannot be sure that only the Christian god provides miracles
- we cannot be sure of the intent of the miracle provider
- we do not need miracles as much as we used because of the development of our civilization has taken over to satisfy those needs.
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